Отправлено: 07.04.11 20:43. Заголовок: Дистанционный конкурс "Поединок переводчиков - 2011"

Дистанционный конкурс "Поединок переводчиков - 2011"

Положение о конкурсе: http://eidos.ru/project/translator/index.htm<\/u><\/a>

Ведущая конкурса: Мангутова Ольга Николаевна, сотрудник кафедры иностранных языков, ЦДО «Эйдос»

 Отправлено: 08.04.11 03:13. Заголовок: Дорогие участники ко..

Дорогие участники конкурса!

Я - Ольга Николаевна Мангутова, ведущая конкурса.

Поздравляю вас с началом увлекательного и познавательного конкурса, который продлится с 8 по 21 апреля. Вас ждет 14 дней творчества, полета фантазии, новых знакомств и впечатлений!

На этом конкурсе я приглашаю вас проявить свои переводческие и литературные таланты.

Для начала, предлагаю ознакомиться с расписанием конкурса.

8 апреля. Задание № 1 «Визитная карточка». Участники знакомятся друг с другом на форуме конкурса.

9-11 апреля. Задание № 2 «Кодекс переводчика». На форуме конкурса участники составляют свое представление о том, в чем заключается труд переводчика, и разрабатывают кодекс переводчика.

12-15 апреля. Задание № 3 «Искусство перевода». Участники выполняют перевод предложенного произведения в различных стилях и жанрах и публикуют свои работы на форуме конкурса.

16-19 апреля. Задание № 4 «Я-эксперт». Участники выступают в роли экспертов и оценивают работы других участников, выполненных в предыдущем задании. А также на основе своих экспертных заключений создают буклет конкурса переводчиков в виде самых интересных переводов и кодексов переводчиков.

20 апреля. Задание № 5 «Рефлексия участников». Участники делятся своими мнениями о конкурсе.

21 апреля. Подведение итогов конкурса. Призеры конкурса получают подарки и грамоты, участникам высылается рейтинг.

 Отправлено: 08.04.11 15:50. Заголовок: Hello, everybody! I..

 Отправлено: 09.04.11 04:21. Заголовок: Hello, Nikita! I am..

Hello, Nikita!

I am really glad to meet you again at this contest! So...you are an experienced Eidos participator I am sure you'll show the best of you and we a re waiting for your vizit card.

С уважением, ведущая конкурса, Ольга Николаевна Мангутова

 Отправлено: 15.04.11 14:34. Заголовок: Dear Olga Nikolayevn..

 Отправлено: 08.04.11 16:59. Заголовок: Hello, dear particip..

Hello, dear participants and organizers!

I'm glad to see all of you here. I hope to take positive emotions from this contest and try to present such emotions to you!:)

Nikita Skorohvatov, Tulun.

 Отправлено: 08.04.11 21:15. Заголовок: Nikita! It's in..

 Отправлено: 09.04.11 04:30. Заголовок: Hello, Nikita Skoroh..

Hello, Nikita Skorohvatov!

Why not present right here your wonderful vizit card that you've sent to me? I suppose all participants would be glad to know more about you and your interests.

 Отправлено: 08.04.11 18:08. Заголовок: The BEST girls. We ..

Hello people)))
We are here!)) And we really glad to be here=)
This is a start of new competitions! And we want to wish you: GOOD LUCK!

The BEST girls.

We are:
Chistokhina Margarita, 16 years old; school №32, form 9 «A»; Russia, Norilsk

Godlevskaya Elizaveta, 15 years old; school №32, form 9 «A»; Russia, Norilsk

Bachu Irina, 15 years old; school №32, form 9 «A»; Russia, Norilsk

Kozhehova Inna, 14 years old; school №32, form 9 «A»; Russia, Norilsk

Kamaeva Saniya, 15 years old; school №32, form 9 «A»; Russia, Norilsk

Varava Marina, 15 years old; school №32, form 9 «A»; Russia, Norilsk


We are young,
We are strong,
We are happy all day long!


We have many similar things, such as love for art, music, dancing; our favorite school and class; our places of entertainment.


We are wonderful girls. We are considerate, supportive, responsible, loyal, brainy and friendly. We are the best at studying. We take an active part in all school activities. We like to take part in different contests and competitions. Besides each off use has her own – hobby.
We like to spend time together, visiting the cinema, the theatre, skating – rink and other places of interest. We go for walks together, visit each other at home. We are full of optimism, and new original ideas.
We are never bored together! =)


Every girl of our team is interested in English language. We want to develop our language skills. Besides we are very creative girls.


As for us, we wait a lot of positive things of this competition. Also we think that our English will be better after our participation in it. We want to get interesting and exciting tasks.

A few questions from us:
Would you like to come to us, to our Norilsk?
What do you usually do for developing your language skills?
Have you ever participated in similar competitions?

 Отправлено: 08.04.11 21:04. Заголовок: hello..

 Отправлено: 09.04.11 20:54. Заголовок: Hi) Yeah, we have to..

Hi)
Yeah, we have took part in "it".
But...sorry, we don't know anything about you... We'd like to know))

Your "the BEST girls"..)

 Отправлено: 15.04.11 14:48. Заголовок: Well, girls, I'm..

 Отправлено: 09.04.11 16:47. Заголовок: Hi,girls! I'm v..

Hi,girls!

I'm very glad to see you here and i agree with Ilya,your visit card really grest!)

Nikita Skorohvatov

 Отправлено: 09.04.11 20:59. Заголовок: Hi!) Nice to hear) T..

Hi!)
Nice to hear) Thanks)

 Отправлено: 08.04.11 18:45. Заголовок: https://docs.google...

https://docs.google.com/present/edit?id=0AXwa40ZB1ktIZGR6N2c5Y3RfNDBkbXA1ODVkZw&hl=ru

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Here you can find a presentation about us.
If you want to know more about us, watch it.

 Отправлено: 09.04.11 15:05. Заголовок: Hello everybody! My ..

Hello everybody! My name is Anton and it's first time, when i would like take part in contest in this centre. I'm not registrate yet, but i will do it at all costs! I hear a lot about this centre and about interesting competition here. I sure that it will be interesting and funny! good luck to all.

 Отправлено: 09.04.11 18:21. Заголовок: Hi, Anton! Very glad..

 Отправлено: 09.04.11 16:22. Заголовок: Ilya! Tulun is a to..

Ilya!

Tulun is a town in Irkutsk region.It's rather small and only 50,000 people live here.

Nikita Skorohvatov.

 Отправлено: 09.04.11 18:26. Заголовок: Nikita, How far is ..

 Отправлено: 09.04.11 16:30. Заголовок: Hello, dear Olga Nik..

Hello, dear Olga Nikolayevna!

here is my visit card:

Hello!)My name's Nikita. Surname is Skorohvatov. I'm from Tulun (It's in Irkutsk region).Also I’m from 8th form in Tulun gymnasium.
I'm very creative, positive and interesting person. And very very active).I really love English and rock music(like Panik, Offspring)Also i like drawing and playing the guitar, reading English books and of course I like walking with my friends))

In my free time I like wasting my free time :D

I like such competitions, and, I think, it's the main reason for me to take part in this great competition.
Also I'm ready to take positive emotions:)

My questions to other participants:
How many years you learn English?
What is your favorite book in English?
What kind of music do you like?
Do you want to visit England or America?

 Отправлено: 09.04.11 19:40. Заголовок: Hello) My name is Z..

Hello)
My name is Zadorozhnaya Ann I'm from Kaluga. I will take part in a competition for the first time , but I heard about "Eidos" a lot) And I want to develope my English because now I know it not so well) . I'm glad to see you all here) and I think that competitions will be very interesting)))

 Отправлено: 10.04.11 15:15. Заголовок: Hello Ann! Glad to s..

Hello Ann!
Glad to see here one more student from our school!
As I know you make good poetical translation, I read one and liked it. Mom says that you can draw well. Is it so?
Can you show your best pictures?

Ilya Belickin

 Отправлено: 09.04.11 23:00. Заголовок: hello,everybody! my ..

hello,everybody! my name is Julia. I am 16. I take part in this contest at first time. i glad to see all of you. i hope to have interesting discussions and meet new friends

 Отправлено: 10.04.11 10:51. Заголовок: hello, Antosha. i am..

hello, Antosha. i am glad to see you! how are you?

 Отправлено: 10.04.11 13:40. Заголовок: :sm115: Dear Julia,..

Dear Julia, who are you? Where are you from? We are waiting for our classmate...her name is Julia too:)))

Ilya Belickin[/

 Отправлено: 09.04.11 23:31. Заголовок: Hi girls! glad to se..

Hi girls! glad to see you in this competition. I think with you it'll be more funny!

 Отправлено: 10.04.11 13:35. Заголовок: I know one girl- Zad..

 Отправлено: 10.04.11 14:36. Заголовок: Ilya, i don't kn..

Ilya, i don't know. Maby she is our classmate. It will be cool if she write as her surname! =)

 Отправлено: 10.04.11 15:10. Заголовок: Anton, How about you..

 Отправлено: 10.04.11 12:44. Заголовок: Ilya! I like small ..

Ilya!

I like small towns too,and ecpecially I love my town.I feel myself comfortable in it.
But there is one problem: there are no places to go to..Here is neither good cinema,nor theaters..In our town only one place to walk with friends - it's little dam near river Iya)

What about Kaluga?I have never been there,but i've heard a lot.

Nikita Skorohvatov

 Отправлено: 10.04.11 16:32. Заголовок: Cookie:D Kaluga is ..

Cookie:D Kaluga is a town in 150 km. from Moscow. Kaluga is a birthplace of cosmonautics. We have a cosmonautic museum here =)

 Отправлено: 15.04.11 14:55. Заголовок: Hello Cookie! I see..

 Отправлено: 10.04.11 12:55. Заголовок: You're alwaus we..

You're alwaus welcome,girls!)

 Отправлено: 10.04.11 15:39. Заголовок: Hi) may I ask you so..

Hello Ilya, glad to see you too ) Thanks that you think so (about poems), but it was many time ago(
About drawing... I dont know how well, but Elena Viktorovna thinks so) If you'll can explane me how to sent a pictures I'll can show you some of it)
____
And may I ask you some question? Need I make a vizit card today or any other day? (Because it was need to do two days ago...)

 Отправлено: 10.04.11 18:00. Заголовок: Dear Ann, we had to ..

Dear Ann,
we had to send our visit cards 2 days ago, you are right, but as I know nobody did it. That's why we must do it as quick as possible and send it to our teacher first, or if yo can, to the organizers of the contest. (I suppose the first variant is easier for you).

As for the pictures-find the icon on the top of the letter (your letter, when you are trying to write it). So, it is the 17th icon from the left ( a man), press this icon and find your picture. Don't forget to compress the picture. Otherwise it will be too big.

P.S. There is another variant send your pictures to me or my mom and we'll expose them


Ilya

 Отправлено: 10.04.11 20:01. Заголовок: Here is my visit car..

Here is my visit card

 Отправлено: 11.04.11 19:19. Заголовок: Hi, Anton) I want to..

Hi, Anton)
I want to hear your song either))

P.S.: the BEST girl Rita...)*

 Отправлено: 10.04.11 21:37. Заголовок: Nice photoes, Anton!..

 Отправлено: 10.04.11 22:00. Заголовок: http://pics.qip.ru/1..

 Отправлено: 10.04.11 23:18. Заголовок: ArtEastka Wow! it&#..

ArtEastka Wow! it's realy cool! Is it anime heroes? I like it!

 Отправлено: 11.04.11 22:11. Заголовок: oops not absolutely ..

oops not absolutely (it's my own thoughts) but it's anime-style you are right)

 Отправлено: 12.04.11 21:16. Заголовок: Dear Ann, It'..

Dear Ann,

It's seems to be drawn during the lessons, especially the firtst picture:)
Am I right?

Ilya Belickin

 Отправлено: 13.04.11 22:37. Заголовок: CHESSTER_COFFEE Mayb..

CHESSTER_COFFEE Maybe it so (I don't remember such detales) But I have normal(serious) pictures too

 Отправлено: 15.04.11 15:28. Заголовок: ArtEastka...you are ..

 Отправлено: 20.04.11 19:24. Заголовок: CHESSTER_COFFEE Well..

CHESSTER_COFFEE Well and what lesson it was? (It was English?)
In my understanding the "ArtEastka" means "Art" + "East" or something like the actress, instead of the artist (though it is written as artist) well maybe the artist too

 Отправлено: 10.04.11 22:16. Заголовок: My name is Julia. My..

dear, Oga Nicolaevna!
it's my visit card:
My name is Julia. My surname is Zelenova. I am a pupil of the ninth form at school gymnasium number 9 in Kaluga. I have a lot of hobbies. I play on the stage of the Children’s Theatre in my town. I like it very much and understand that acting makes me more self-confident and helps to express my feelings. Besides, I like dancing. It’s a very exciting hobby and it helps me to keep fit. So I can say that I’m creative, positive person, who likes to travel, makes new friends and learns about the world around.

 Отправлено: 11.04.11 03:02. Заголовок: Hello, Julia! I'..

Hello, Julia!

I'm glad that you are the participant of our contest. I wish you success!

But, unfortunately, you didn't send me your visit-card by e-mail. Please, read the instructions carefully and don't forget to send your works to the organizers of the project.

 Отправлено: 11.04.11 13:36. Заголовок: Has anybody written ..

Has anybody written a "Translator's code"?

Here's my one:

The main translator’s rules:

1) The translator always should realize made on him/her responsible.
The success of translation depends on that, how many knowledge and
Sincere& forces the translator has enclosed in it.
2) Besides scientific, first of all linguistic preparation,
the translator should be able to overcome
blanks in the knowledge by means of erudition.
Plus, sense of humour (of course, if it necessary). :)))
3) Depending on a kind of activity of translators it is possible to divide all translators on oral and written. With the first group everything is clean, they have to translate everything right here and right now, and the second divides on
translators technical and fiction literature. Different kinds of translation demand various abilities and temperament. The oral translator should as much as possible full to hand over the information here and now. As a rule, they haven’t time to look for something in dictionaries.
4) Learn to translate obscene expressions, idioms, phraseological units.
It is difficult to translate an impromptu "Kuzkina’s mother",
But sometimes it is possible to tell: "The lecturer has joked",
using an absolutely not translated word-play,
"And I think, it will be pleasant, if all of you will laugh now". :))
The necessary effect, for certain, will be reached.
5) Get a writing-book where you will write down epithets,
synonyms, set phrases for standard situations
6) The translator should fill up the lexicon vocabulary every day.

__________________________________
But the translator should understand, what to know everything - is impossible.
And to know all - is unnecessary at all. :)

 Отправлено: 12.04.11 04:03. Заголовок: Dear Nikita Skorohva..

Dear Nikita Skorohvatov!

Thank you for your "Code" as you are the first who managed to do it. Well, I really like your code and would like to know:

1) What kind of translator would you like to be?

2) How do you think, if there are some things that any translator must not do in any case?

 Отправлено: 11.04.11 14:05. Заголовок: Ilya,you asked me to..

Ilya,you asked me to take some photoes..here're some of my photoes in RAR file)))

http://zalil.ru/30838832

More photoes you can see herehttp://vkontakte.ru/skorohvatov96 ))

Nikita

 Отправлено: 11.04.11 15:42. Заголовок: Hello everybody! Her..

Hello everybody!
Here is my visit card:

My name is Andrei Zakrzhevsky, I’m student of 10th grade of
polytechnic lyceum in town Mirny, Yakutia.
My friends sometimes say that I’m like Bolkonsky.
Restrained, mannered, neat and so…
I think basketball ball, snowboard, snow, stars can tell something
about me and my interests…
I participate this contest ‘cause I like translate different texts,
like read compositions in original language (English).
I expect to find it very interesting and fascinating because I like
a lot contests which are held by Eidos.
Now, I don’t have any questions, but I think I’ll have during contest.

And "Translator's code":

Code must allocate the basis of action to be followed by a translator
that would fully convey the meaning of words spoken or written text.
Basically, the Code should address the oral part of the interpreter.
For example, everyone knows that one word in different languages
can have much more translations. Each translation may have different
meanings. Thus, the interpreter should be careful when translating
speech to avoid conflict situations. The translator should be easy to
get in touch with any people, to find a common language to talk was
not constrained. The translator must not have bad habits, so as not to
nauseate a buddy.

I've read your writings and realized that my ones are very simple
and small...

 Отправлено: 12.04.11 04:09. Заголовок: Dear Andrei! Thank ..

Dear Andrei!

Thank you for your "Code". Would you, please, answer some of my questions?

1.slader пишет:

цитата:

The translator must not have bad habits,

Could you name those bad habits that a translator should avoid?

2. How do you think, if there are some things that any translator must not do in any case?

3. Do you have your own recipe how to become a good translator?

 Отправлено: 13.04.11 10:29. Заголовок: Мангутова О.Н. пишет..

Мангутова О.Н. пишет:
[quote]`
The word translator, I mean a person who is engaged in interpretations...

I think that translator shouldn't smoke and drink alcohol. Not to tear away people from himself.
You should not be rude with people you work.
I believe that good mind and attentiveness are main aims to become good translator.

 Отправлено: 11.04.11 19:03. Заголовок: Greetings to all! We..

Greetings to all!
We are very glad to meet you here!) we Hope that warmth of our communication will warm us and you... After all... we have cold winter now...snowy winter...)
our kisses for you! =*
your "the BEST girls"

 Отправлено: 12.04.11 18:03. Заголовок: Hello, everybody! W..

Hello, everybody!

We also want to present our Code. We think that

1. A good translator must be literate. He must constantly improve his literacy and broaden his horizons.
2. A good translator must have a good style and sense of style in ordsr that, for any translation, whether written or oral, the text was read or sounded clear, understandable and beautiful.
3. A good translator must respect the author's text and its translation. He must not try to change it, and certainly not add or not reduce it on his discretion.
4. The good translator should own the big base of dictionaries, encyclopedias, to use the Internet in the educational purposes. At the slightest doubt in correctness of a writing of words it should check itself by means of the dictionary.
5. The good translator has no right to pass an opinion the point of view of the said text at an oral translation and the more so it shouldn't present the information at own discretion and to belief.
6. A good translator should be responsible for the translation and its quality. The translator should recognize and rectify the errors, and the good translator shouldn't suppose them.
7. A good translator always understands that the information which he has received for translation, is confidential. He shouldn't use it in the mercenary purposes and do it the property of the public.
8. A good translator will never take huge volume of the text which needs to be made in the shortest terms if he knows that won't consult. It is better to refuse transfer or to take half of order, than to hand over the transfer made on "tjap-mistake". The good translator doesn't suppose hack-work.
9. And the main thing: the good translator loves the work and does it with love.
Be good translators!

The translator should possess knowledge of the country, culture, customs of this country, traditions etc. (i.e. it should to be competent of almost any area)
Diplomatic qualities are important too
Insight
Good memory
Protection of interests of the client.
Presence of rules helps to be guided with difficult situations, reduces risk of possible speech errors and risk to be not understood.
The good translator should possess such professional qualities, as responsibility, diligence and respect for people. Also it should have skills of the journalist, the secretary, the writer. The translator should be polite with its clients. It should be very attentive (to hear to ALL from this that the client speaks, to translate the information given to it authentically). Also it should think quickly (that is to translate very quickly).
The translator is obliged to provide high level of competence of spheres of a source language, a target language, the technician of transfer and text subjects. It should do it by the all ways known to it.
The translator should be able to convey all meaning told by its client, to be able to transfer emotions else. Besides it sometimes should be able to convince the interlocutor that its client of the rights. Presently force will not help your business. If you, the translator, don't know has imparted belief of people you shouldn't work in this trade.
And, certainly, the main restriction which can be in work of the translator is increases of a voice on the client and the more so translator mustn’t break its personal rights.

 Отправлено: 13.04.11 04:00. Заголовок: Dear girls! Thank y..

Dear girls!

Thank you for your Code. Would you, please, answer some of my questions?

1. Some of the participants of our contest think that a sense of humour is a very important trait of character for a translator. What do you think about it?

2. Are there any things that a translator has no right to do in any situation?

3. How can a person become a very good translator?

 Отправлено: 13.04.11 17:01. Заголовок: Hello, Olga Hikolaev..

Hello, Olga Hikolaevna!)
We were thinking-thinking… And… these are answers!)

1. The sense of humour is necessary for the translator because in an operating time there can be every possible unexpected situations, and sometimes they even can be the comical. And in such situation the translator from sense of humour will always find such way out which wouldn't humiliate the client (especially if the client has made wrong action)
2. The answers are in our Code. (Such as: “A good translator will never take huge volume of the text which needs to be made in the shortest terms if he knows that won't consult”. and “Certainly, the main restriction which can be in work of the translator is increases of a voice on the client and the more so translator mustn’t break its personal rights”.)
3. He just should carry out Code rules)) And, of course, first of all his language skills should be perfect!

With love,
your “the BEST girls”))

 Отправлено: 12.04.11 23:13. Заголовок: I'll sent v-card..

I'll sent v-card and code tomorrow Оффтоп: (it was lost and deleted( )

 Отправлено: 13.04.11 00:33. Заголовок: :sm113: We have the..

We have the same problem...

 Отправлено: 13.04.11 17:09. Заголовок: Hello, Ann) don'..

Hello, Ann)
don't cry! we wish you good luck!))
and we look forward your v-card))

"the BEST girls"

 Отправлено: 13.04.11 21:18. Заголовок: the BEST girls Thank..

the BEST girls Thank you for support) You have done a very good code, I like it =)

 Отправлено: 13.04.11 18:58. Заголовок: Hello, dear particip..

Hello, dear participants of the contest!
I see you really became keen on this interesting contest. Don't you want to devote your life to the job of an interpreter or a translator? Reading your Codes I can suppose that you are really interested in this topic. It's great!
I wish you luck and success in this contest!

 Отправлено: 13.04.11 20:17. Заголовок: To fulfill the task ..

To fulfill the task I must say that there is a translator and interpreter. They both work with languages but their works is different. I will speak about an interpreter.
She/ he must be:
1. Smart. He/she has to know a lot to translate details correctly.
2. Good-looking. He/she works with foreigners and represents his own country.
3. Sociable and tolerant. He/she has to deal with people of different cultures and peculiarities.
4. Well-mannered and gentle. He/she has to communicate with emotional people who can easily lose control.
5. Fluent in the foreign languages. He/she should know idioms and phrasal verbs not to get at a loss
6. Self-confident. He/she must be responsible for the truthfulness and correctness of his translations.
7. He/she must know the culture of a foreign country as well as his own one, because he/she should love and respect the natives.

To sum it up I can say that to be an interpreter is not as easy thing though it’s really exciting, because it’s gives a lot of opportunities that is why this job appeals to many young people. I’m not exception=)

 Отправлено: 14.04.11 03:42. Заголовок: Dear nice! If I und..

Dear nice!

If I understood you the right way, you would like to become an interpreter? Is it so? Well, could you tell us what you do to to preapare for your future profession, to enter the university?

 Отправлено: 18.04.11 04:10. Заголовок: I like you code, I m..

Dear nice,
I like you code, I must say
I'm going to become either a translator or interpreter. The last attracts me very much, bacause of the opportunity of travelling and meeting new people. Are you going to learn any other languages?
I also think that an interpreter should be very patient and have strong nerves. And make sure that he doesn't provoke conflicts with his translation.

 Отправлено: 13.04.11 20:37. Заголовок: Ilya, what problems ..

Ilya, what problems do you have? can i help you?

 Отправлено: 13.04.11 21:58. Заголовок: Thank you, Julia! I..

 Отправлено: 13.04.11 20:41. Заголовок: Helo, everybody! So..

 Отправлено: 13.04.11 20:47. Заголовок: So, here we are! ..

 Отправлено: 13.04.11 22:34. Заголовок: ..

Here we are!

The name of our team is Only Two



We have been acting as a team for two years, but earlier our team was bigger! We can't say that we are the cleverest, but more obstinate and proof.

We are very different and it makes our work together easier, because you know “Truth is born in discussion” or.quarells…sometimes

Sveta is good at translation, especially at poetical one. So I hope that all difficult translation will be done by Svetlana (Ilua) And I hope that

Ilya will communicate with the other participants and make all technical part of the work.(Svetlana) Some part of the work must be done together and

we are not ready yet with the code, because we have different points of view, so we must come to agreement first.

We are late for the contest cause we hoped to gather all the team (There were 8 of us last time) But we have rather difficult time now-we are

preparing for exams. Oh, we’ve forgotten to say that Ilya is 16 and he is in the 9th form, and Sveta is 16 and in the 10th form.

Ilya is interested in psychology and Sveta in medicine. As you can see we have something in common

We don’t hope to win this time, but have good time and interesting tasks!!!

Klopova Svetlana and Belikin Ilya

 Отправлено: 14.04.11 15:55. Заголовок: Hello, Olga Hikolaev..

Hello, Olga Hikolaevna!

1)_To honestly, I don’t care how to translate things I have to translate)))
There was a lot of oral and written translation in my practice))
2)_I think, that written translator shouldn't add something by him\herself in translation, because it can show sense of article wrong.
As a written translator, oral one needn't to deform sense too.))
And, of course, he should think, what he saysб before saying))

 Отправлено: 14.04.11 19:11. Заголовок: My vizit card My n..

My vizit card

My name is Anna Zadorozhnaya. I'm 17years old. I live in Kaluga and study In Gimnasia № 9 in 10"V" (medical) form
I'm very curious and creative, I like to speak foreign languages (now I know only English and not so well, that’s why I am here ) But I continue studying it and enjoy it very much)
Else I have a lot of interests:(I like to do something unusual like studying Japanese language, I like how it sounds; and fighting arts- it's very interesting for me because I studied it . I can draw (often landscapes and anime heroes),sing, play the violin and the piano (I finished music and art school).I like listen to music(rock; j-rock(Japan) and something else...also I like to read (in English too),to walk with friends, to play pin pong, and to do other interesting things...
Now I'm a member of anime-club +Karas+ (we organize a lot of festivals for anime-fans in Kaluga; this winter our club was on Moscow festival "Animatrix")

P.S. Well, now you know what to talk with me about :)))
http://pics.qip.ru/301owso.jpg<\/u><\/a> I like travelling, as you can see)

____________


The translator’s code:

The most important characteristics for the translator are:

*Good memory and good knowledge of language (The translator should always improve it)
*really GOOD translator must be literate, creative and should to do his work well and with love (a real translator is who really likes his work).

The translator should know specificity of his job well:

*The translator should know well culture of that country in which language he talks.
*The translator should precisely know, what kind of translation he is going to do (written or an oral translation) (because it’s so different things!)And understand the original-text well.
*The translator should be attentive, in other way he can make a mistake (That’s why translator need in good vocabularies and Internet).
*The translator must be honest.
*The translator should be able to transfer emotions in his translation.
*And I think the translator should speak fluently, accurately and clearly for associates (otherwise it is not the translator whom nobody will understand)
*The translator should be diplomatic and should avoid sharp expressions and excessive estimated judgments (in the text).

The translator mustn’t:

1 deform the author's text and to change sense of author's phrases.
2 have such bad habits as laziness and roughness.
3 do his work badly.

And I think that the translator should be just a good person with whom it is always pleasantly to talk).

P.S. I wanted to make this text on a beautiful background, but I couldn't send it here(

 Отправлено: 14.04.11 21:12. Заголовок: Dear Ann, your code..

 Отправлено: 16.04.11 22:35. Заголовок: Only Two Thanks :sm3..

Only Two Thanks (I will wait your code )

 Отправлено: 14.04.11 21:15. Заголовок: thank you Ilya you t..

thank you Ilya you too good luck pleased that beside you now full-fledged command)))

 Отправлено: 17.04.11 12:34. Заголовок: Harder every day in ..

Harder every day in the dictionary I look,
In his columns, twinkling sparks feelings.
In the basement of the words do not come just art
In his hand a dark lantern.

At all events the words print
They were observed not in vain person
Read: "Age. Of the century. Vekovat.
Age live out. God's son did not give age.

Century stick, a century to heal someone else ... "
The words sounded a reproach, and anger, and conscience.
No, not vocabulary lies before me,
And the ancient tale sprinkled.

 Отправлено: 20.04.11 05:52. Заголовок: Hi, slader! We have ..

Hi, slader!
We have chosen your translation for analysis. We think that you have done a good translation.
Translation of the poem completely corresponds to the original. Style corresponds to style of transfer. We liked the translation of this poem, it was pleasant to us, but translation is too literal. We would like to advise the author of the translation to make it more creative. It is an artwork and we were offered to translate it in different ways. So we expected the translation to be more creative.

 Отправлено: 17.04.11 14:05. Заголовок: Something like a poe..

Something like a poem, or even a song :)

More assiduously
every day I look in the dictionary,
In its columns feeling
sparks flicker.
In cellars of words art
again will descend
Holding in a hand
the secret lantern.

On all words the press of event ,
They were gave not for nothing
to human being,
I read: «the Century. From a century.
Century to live. God to the son hasn't given to a century.

Century to jam,
the century to heal the stranger …»
In words the reproach, both anger,
and sounds conscience
No..
It’s not the dictionary lies before me,
It’s the ancient scattered story.

 Отправлено: 20.04.11 05:59. Заголовок: Hi, Никита! We liked..

Hi, Никита!
We liked your translation very much. Translation of the poem completely corresponds to the original.

Style corresponds to style of transfer. We think that your work doesn't have any "minuses" according to the criteria of the task.
Thanks a lot!!!

 Отправлено: 17.04.11 15:23. Заголовок: Hello)) My name is M..

Hello)) My name is Margarita. I'm taking part in this contest for the first time. My teacher told me, I only have to do the tasks and she will send my answers to the Eidos center. Shall I type my answers here?

 Отправлено: 17.04.11 17:45. Заголовок: Well, I decided to p..

Well, I decided to put the answers here
Here's my visit card

Hello!! I am Tishina Margarita Andreyevna. I go to Gymnasium #1 in my tiny Sterlitamak.
I’ve been studying English since I was 8 years old. It is my hobby, my favourite subject and…I hope my future. I enjoy taking part in various English contests and olympiads (and I’m usually successful). I love to read English books and watch films in English. Last year my teacher and I made a research work on Russian and American jokes. It turned out that jokes are very difficult to translate, sometimes it is just impossible! This contest is a great opportunity to try some other forms of translation.

As I have already said, I would like my future job to be connected with English and other foreign languages. Perhaps, I will become a translator. So, why not to start translating right now? I hope to find out something new about translation and learn to use this knowledge. I’m never satisfied with the result of my work, but I’m sure this contest is worth taking part in.

Dear participants, I would like to ask you some questions.
1) Which profession would you choose: translator or interpreter? Your answers are important for me.
2) It’s rather difficult to translate the 2nd stanza of the poem in the 3rd task, isn’t it? Is it possible to change some of the expressions with ones common in the English language?

 Отправлено: 17.04.11 17:54. Заголовок: Let me represent you..

Let me represent you my "Translator's code" Ta-daaaaa!!!!!!
I am in the 9th form and I am not a professional translator, of course. Although I have to translate something at every English lesson, I am still not aware of many hardships one faces working as a translator. That is why having a special list of rules would be very useful for me. As a beginner, I need to know what I can do and what I can’t, what is possible and what is not. I think that “Translator’s Code” should help translators to solve general problems connected with their job. For example, when I was working on the 3rd task I had to answer some questions: “Can I change the meaning of the original text? Can I omit some of the ideas because I can’t translate them?” and so on. Here is my own version of the “Translator’s Code”.
1) Try to translate the text as close as you can (if it is possible in this situation).
2) Take your time and think about different translations, then choose the best one.
3) Use the appropriate style (It is not a very good idea to translate Shakespeare’s sonnets using slang).
4) Always check your works for mistakes (I don’t think I managed to do it properly. I am sorry).
5) Be polite in your works and take the mentality and customs of different nations into account.
6) Respect the work of other translators and NEVER copy their translations.
7) Do not spoil the original text.
a) Never change the meaning of the text. You can use different words but do not forget about the main idea.
b) Never cut down the text and never add your own ideas.
8) Do not use computer translators. They cannot see the main idea and help you. They will only make your job more difficult. You must respect the author of the original text and do the translation yourself.
9) Remember that quality is more important than quantity. You had better make one excellent translation than ten poor translations.
10) This is not a rule but a recommendation. Try to choose the topic you are interested in. It is really hard to make a good translation of the text if you find it boring.

These are ten main rules a translator should follow. And what are the features of a good translator?
Trying to do his best (Important in any job)
Ready to imagine (Good imagination can help you to find the right words)
Assiduous (Extremely important. You may have to spend hours with dictionaries)
Not afraid of difficulties (They are guaranteed)
Sense of humour
Loving his job (If you love to translate, you are almost a good translator)
Able to see the author’s point of view
Translating impartially (Even if you don’t agree with the author)
Obeying the rules of translating
Reading a lot of books (The more you read, the more words you learn)

So, this is my “Translator’s Code”. The rules are very simple but still they are necessary for me. Finally, I would like to say, that it is impossible to translate a text not changing anything. In my opinion, it is really hard to make the reader feel as if he was reading the original. That is why working as a translator requires responsibility.

 Отправлено: 17.04.11 19:53. Заголовок: Competition becomes ..

Competition becomes more and more interesting

 Отправлено: 17.04.11 20:34. Заголовок: Aha, and more and mo..

Aha, and more and more difficult

 Отправлено: 18.04.11 06:43. Заголовок: Hi, dear participant..

Hi, dear participants!
Hello, Olga Nikolaevna!

Here are our translations of the poem.

Variant 1.
If you want to know our opinion, we should say, that it is necessary to use the dictionary to make exact and full transfer of any text. There are many words which will help you with your work contain in the dictionary. But on the other hand the big variety of words can make you are confused. Some words or word combinations containing in the dictionary, have the coloring which will help the translator to transfer emotional coloring of the translated text. All dictionaries were made throughout all history of written speech. Each word has own history and is connected with any certain event. The work of many linguists is reflected in dictionaries and sometimes it's difficult to choose a correct variant of a word or a word combination to convey meaning of the translated text in full conformity with the original both in lexical and in emotional value. There is no doubt that the dictionary plays large role in the work of the translator. It is the main assistant to the translator after his own knowledge.

Variant 2

Is it difficult to you to speak with your foreign friend? The decision is here! The dictionary! It will help you to cope with this problem. It becomes easy To you to speak, and each word will be clear. Besides the dictionary can tell to you a lot about a planet, actors, animal, and (the most important thing) about life. The dictionary in hands of the person is as a magic wand! You can operate conversation: it is enough to find only the necessary page, and all becomes clear at once! The dictionary – the decision of all your problems!

 Отправлено: 18.04.11 11:42. Заголовок: Dear Girls, I think ..

Dear Girls,
I think your translations are very good! They are not very accurate, but it's interesting to read this poem in different styles=) What styles did you choose? I suppose, that the first is an essay and the second is an advert. Am I right?

 Отправлено: 20.04.11 06:09. Заголовок: Hi, daisy-ritka! Th..

Hi, daisy-ritka!

Thanks for your kind words! Yes, you are right: the first is an essay and the second is an advert. And you say that our translations are not very accurate, but we think that it is an artwork and we were offered to translate it in different ways. So we wanted the translation to be more creative. Are we right?

 Отправлено: 20.04.11 12:06. Заголовок: Of course, it's ..

Of course, it's an artwork and you managed to create very interesting translations) Still, I think that the first translation is closer to the text. I liked the advert very much, but I couldn't recognize the poem in it.However, I agree that when you translate the poem in a different style it's impossible not to lose some ideas or words. I had a try to translate this poem as an encyclopedia article, and, frankly speaking, you were more successful in translating the poem in a different style than me.
Well, it's just my opinion

 Отправлено: 18.04.11 03:43. Заголовок: Well, dear friends! ..

Well, dear friends!

It's rather strange for me to remind you about it... but where are your works? I mean that not everybody managed to make the "Code" and the translation of a poem. And our contest is about finishing...

Waiting for your works and discussions on the forum!

 Отправлено: 18.04.11 03:55. Заголовок: Dear Olga Nikolaevna..

Dear Olga Nikolaevna,
Participating in this contest was so exiting for me!! I like interesting and difficult tasks
Here're my translations
1 вариант

I look into the dictionary more eager every day,
Its columns twinkle with the sparks of feeling.
Time and again the vaults of words the art will be revealing
Holding a secret lamp to light its way.

All of the words are stamped by an event,
They were so hard for humankind to gain
I’m reading: “Time and age”. Then: “Till the end
Of time. Live through the ages”. And again:

“Live for all time. And waste your time”. It sounds
Like conscience, and reproach, and ire. No!
That’s not the dictionary I’m holding in my hands,
But pieces of an ancient story broken long ago.


2 вариант (Энциклопедическая статья)

The poem “Dictionary” by S.Y.Marshak
Every day I am becoming more diligent in working with the dictionary. I can see the sparkles of feeling twinkling in its columns. The art will repeatedly cast light on different meanings of words with its so-called “secret lamp”.
All of the words appeared because of some events. Man didn’t get them without trouble. It is said: “Time and age. Till the end of time. Live through the ages. Live for all time. Waste your time, etc.” These words express reproach, anger and conscience. The book that is lying in front of me is not a dictionary. It is an ancient story divided into small parts, which were scattered all over the world.

 Отправлено: 18.04.11 12:17. Заголовок: 1) A poem Every d..

1) A poem

Every day I'm looking for the something
In dictionary more diligently and
There I see the sparks of feeling
In cellars of the words Art will descend
With secret lantern in his hand

In all of words a seal of event
It wasn’t simply to the people
I read: an age, the age descend
Age did not give to man from angel

To live next century
In words I see reproach and anger
No, not a dictionary lies in front of me
But story separate and ancient

 Отправлено: 19.04.11 17:35. Заголовок: Hello, ArtEastka=) w..

Hello, ArtEastka=)
what do you think about this contest? Was it difficult to make the translation? In my opinion, it's easier to find rhymes in Russian than in English)

 Отправлено: 20.04.11 18:12. Заголовок: daisy-ritka Hi) Com..

daisy-ritka Hi)
Competition was pleasant to me (I already thought that absolutely has forgotten English language - but I still remember something) though I usually don't like to compete =)
In a poem it was difficult with a rhyme. It was necessary in a dictionary (in Russian in this time I would write 50 poems of such length), besides I very much don't love to deform the author's text but sometimes it need to do in poems
Thanks that so has highly appreciated my translation (I think that my translation is not so good )

 Отправлено: 19.04.11 15:23. Заголовок: Only two! Why don&#..

Only two!

Why don't you show us your code and translation?I'd like to see these things))

Nikita

 Отправлено: 20.04.11 20:19. Заголовок: Dear Olga Nikolayevn..

 Отправлено: 20.04.11 23:44. Заголовок: Harder and harder I&..

 Отправлено: 21.04.11 16:00. Заголовок: Only Two My congratu..

Only Two My congratulations ) it was really the hard work and I am glad that you so well and in an original way have made this task (especially the code) It like it very much)

 Отправлено: 21.04.11 03:48. Заголовок: Dear friends! Only ..

Dear friends!

Only Two пишет:

цитата:

We realise that we are too late with our code and translation

Better late than never.

 Отправлено: 19.04.11 16:21. Заголовок: Here is my 4th task...

 Отправлено: 20.04.11 18:53. Заголовок: slader Sorry, but co..

slader Sorry, but could you make a direct reference at forum (very difficultly to find your work)

 Отправлено: 20.04.11 06:18. Заголовок: Dear Olga Nickolaevn..

Dear Olga Nickolaevna! Dear participants!
You can find our analysis of translations here analysis of translations<\/u><\/a>

 Отправлено: 20.04.11 06:34. Заголовок: We'll be glad to..

We were glad to participate in this contest. We got to know such interesting people! We'll be glad to invite you to learn more about us. Here is the presentation about us, our hobbies and interests.
the BEST girls<\/u><\/a>

 Отправлено: 20.04.11 15:03. Заголовок: http://depositfiles...

 Отправлено: 20.04.11 17:14. Заголовок: Hello people!)) We w..

Hello people!))
We want to tell you about our participating:

We have decided to participate in the All-Russia remote competition of projects "Duel of Translators" to test the forces, to learn, how much well we know English language. And it has appeared knowingly.
Our main results are that we have more deeply studied English language, have learned to express accurately our thoughts and feelings in a foreign language.
The greatest interest in us was caused by the task in which we should create «the code of translators». In the given task we have expressed all our opinions, thoughts and wishes concerning qualities which we would like to see in the modern translator and in his work.
The basic difficulties at us have been connected with estimation of creative works of other participants. After all to estimate another's work it is necessary to the participant will understand, in what his successes and what errors he has. It was necessary to pick up such words not to offend the participant, whose work we estimated, but also precisely to specify his "pluses" and "minuses".
In the future we hope that we will participate in similar competitions more often. After all similar actions develop us, forcing us to notice our weaknesses.
And we wish you all to have success in all your contests, in your life!))

With big love,
your "the BEST girls"!)) =*

 Отправлено: 20.04.11 17:18. Заголовок: :sm36: ..

 Отправлено: 20.04.11 18:18. Заголовок: Essay (late a little..

Essay (late a little, I couldn't send it)

What‘s a dictionary?

When you look for something in a dictionary you (always) can ask yourself when and why these words can appear and who can think up them. You can think "what meanings and what emotions could cause these words in other time?"
Every word in a dictionary has its own history sad or happy funny or serious … that means every word consists of their story and feelings what this word can cause. The art need in these words and it "look for" the (same) words which can express different emotions. Every word has the trails in history in people memory. Words are based on events which have happened in the past. To think up the word is not so easy, it appear not so easy. The same words could have the different meanings. The author compares a dictionary with an ancient story.
When I look in the dictionary and see many similar words that I start to understand what connection between these words (maybe they can have an identical origin ... or have arisen at the same time) It can appear more interesting than it seems in the beginning) Sometimes it is useful to know what means this or that word (there are people which use a word and don't know what this word means)
I think that a dictionary it’s an important thing for each people, because from a vocabulary we can receive exact, more trustworthy information about a word, than from other sources.

P.S. I think that it has a lot of mistakes(

 Отправлено: 20.04.11 20:59. Заголовок: From time to time I ..

From time to time
I spend a day or night
In searching words in all the books I find.
Their second meaning
Like fading light
By only magic spark
Can be defined.

The word reflect the life
They ever saw:
The wars and battles, happiness and sorrows.
We can pronounce “flight”
And witness awe.
We can pronounce “grief”
And witness horror.

The one who reads the words
Can be unique,
The one who understands them-
Even better.
Their complex meaning
Helps us to reveal
All hidden secrets stored
By means of letters.

 Отправлено: 20.04.11 21:25. Заголовок: Dear friends yours v..

Dear friends yours very interesting translations. I happy that can take part in this contest.
All of you know English very good. But it was difficult for me. Due to this contest i understand that still remember my English!

 Отправлено: 20.04.11 21:33. Заголовок: Dear Olga Nikolayevn..

Dear Olga Nikolayevna!
I haven't think about my future profession and university yet. But interpreter it's a good job and very exciting for me

 Отправлено: 20.04.11 21:38. Заголовок: Dear friends! thank ..

Dear friends!
thank you for this wonderful contest

 Отправлено: 21.04.11 01:16. Заголовок: 4'th task eh( t..

 Отправлено: 21.04.11 14:43. Заголовок: Dear ArtEastka, Than..

Dear ArtEastka,
Thank you for noticing my code. Though I'm not really sure if it's ideal, It's very pleasant to know your opinion

 Отправлено: 21.04.11 17:11. Заголовок: Dear ArtEastka! Tha..

Dear ArtEastka!

Thanks a lot for such high evaluation of our Code. We are pleased.

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With big love,
your "the BEST girls"!)) =*

 Отправлено: 21.04.11 13:26. Заголовок: 1. Partisapating in ..

1. Partisapating in this contest I understood< that my skills in translating are not very good yet. So I shoud improve it)
2. I liked very much task about translator's code, 'cause it was really interresting for me to think about things which i shouldn't do or should do if I'm a translator. I didn't find interesting task about translating a poem... 'cause I'm not a poet.
3. I felt myself free and in some kind of fly...
4. ------
5. I liked it very much, and I think it's full by organisation.

 Отправлено: 21.04.11 16:49. Заголовок: Dear Slader! :sm44..

Dear Slader!

Don't worry that your skills are not very good yet! We think everybody hear can say the same. But it's great that we try to use our skills in the olympiads and contests! Every time we get new knowledge and new skills. Thanks to the organisers for such interesting activities.
We hope to meet all of you in the next activities of EIDOS!

With big love,
your "the BEST girls"!)) =*

 Отправлено: 21.04.11 16:57. Заголовок: Dear Olga Nickolaevn..

Dear Olga Nickolaevna!

Thanks a lot for this contest! We hope to meet you again!

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With big love,
your "the BEST girls"!)) =*

 Отправлено: 21.04.11 19:46. Заголовок: I liked to participa..

Dear Olga Nickolaevna!

I liked to participate in competition "Duel of translators". I took in this competition part not for to win but for the sake of the process of participation. Because pleasure of that for me has turned out to carry out all tasks at my poor knowledge of language this achievement for me. It costs all spent efforts and time)

I have understood that even if the task seems very difficult at first, it doesn't mean that it is not necessary even to try to make it; on the contrary it is necessary to try to make everything that can. I have a little improved knowledge of language (though I am dissatisfied with results of the work, always it would be desirable to make better), I have learned to express the thoughts more particularly and short in English.

Tasks № "2 and № 3 were especially interesting they have helped to open potential of the translator and to express the point of view on these points in question.
During work performance there were the most different feelings: sometimes I was at a deadlock and felt feeling of a hopelessness which was replaced by enthusiasm when it was possible to me to solve a problem (especially it concerns a poetic translation).But most of all arose feelings of discontent with myself.

The task №3 became the most difficult for me as has already been told at a forum it is required to know well language to pick up a rhyme in a poetic translation, also there were problems in due course (I not so quickly can do tasks, besides I constantly improve it) it was necessary to do in parallel a lot of work, but to me all was possible to make all tasks practically in time.

On the future it would be desirable to make essential progress in studying and understanding of language, it would be desirable to take part in other competitions and center "Eidos" Olympiads as well in other subjects.
It would be desirable to participate in this competition next year, whether but I will be in 11 form and I don't know will can I do it.

I would to tell 'thanks' to organizers of competition and all participants, and to wish new achievements in work and studying.

 Отправлено: 22.04.11 15:52. Заголовок: Dear participants! ..

Dear participants!

It was really interesting to compete and communicate with all of you!:)
I hope to meet all of you in some contests of EIDOS:))

 Отправлено: 22.04.11 16:00. Заголовок: Dear Olga Nickolaevn..

Dear Olga Nickolaevna!

I want to say you thank you for this really exciting contest!))
Hope to meet you again:))

 Отправлено: 23.04.11 22:00. Заголовок: All kind of task was..

All kind of task was very interesting. Sometimes the task seems very difficult but later I try to make it. I have learned to express the thoughts more particularly and short .the contest «Duel of translators" teaches me to think and speak in English correctly
The task №2 I think was the best. It very interesting to know what interpreter must to do.
During work performance there were the most different feelings: sometimes I was at a deadlock and I didn't understand what I must to do but them I intend and go to do the task.
The task №3 became the most difficult for me because I'm not a poet.
I want to say “thanks” to organizers of this contest it was wonderful!
Thank all of you my dear friends!
Good lack!